AI’s Impact on Education + AI Emotions in A/B Testing

We all know AI is transforming marketing communications, but it’s also giving educators and administrators a new edge. In this episode of The AI Central Podcast, Dr. David Mitchell, Chief Education Officer for Human Driven AI, shares his insights on AI’s impact on education. He includes a look at some of his favorite tools, including Magic School. Also in this episode, CEO Jennifer Jones-Mitchell shares a use case where AI emotions care taking A/B testing to new heights.

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welcome to the AI Central podcast

0:02brought to you by Human-Driven AI

0:06thank you so much for joining us i’m

0:08Jennifer Jones Mitchell and I’m Dr david

0:10Mitchell let’s get into it

0:13so for any of our uh audience members

0:16who don’t know you are not only a

0:19brilliant music composer oh thank you

0:22you’re welcome very much but you are

0:24also uh a professor with decades of

0:26in-classroom experience as well as

0:28experience as a college administrator

0:30that’s true it is

0:33um and I know that you’ve been spending

0:35a lot of time looking at AI testing

0:37different tools and you know how AI can

0:40be applied to education in general so

0:43I’m just curious what have you learned

0:45so far what’s jumped out at you as most

0:47interesting yeah it’s really been

0:49interesting so I’ve been basically

0:51trying out different tools that are

0:53available um in Canvas but also free

0:56tools that are available and there’s a

0:58couple I wanted to talk about today and

0:59one is Magic AI and diffit and they’re

1:02actually free tools that uh instructors

1:06can use online and it’s for any grade

1:08level because the concept behind these

1:11tools and is the fact that you can

1:14differentiate education to different

1:16levels so it’s really fascinating what

1:19what you can do so this is what they’ve

1:21been talking about with education is

1:23being able to tailor education to um

1:26each student so it’s uh you know uh what

1:30would you call it um personalization

1:32personalization that’s the word I’m

1:33looking for

1:35i’m an educator

1:38yeah no personalization is the word I

1:40was looking for yeah so you can

1:41personalize the educational experience

1:44to the grade level of the student and or

1:48in language too so you can change the

1:50language and that’s helpful for our

1:53school because um I’m the director of

1:55education at a small music school here

1:57in Atlanta and we do have some um quite

2:01a few students who English is their

2:03second language and so it could be

2:05helpful in some technical readings and

2:07situations to put it in Spanish for them

2:10you know so what does this look like

2:11when you say personalized are you saying

2:13it personalizes the curriculum for each

2:15individual student and their learning

2:17level and their language and all of that

2:20um well you know if you’re in a

2:22classroom situation you don’t

2:24necessarily want to have a totally

2:25separate curriculum right that’s what I

2:27was asking yeah um I mean you could uh

2:31you could even go that granular and make

2:33it a completely different curriculum but

2:35uh you kind of want to have the class

2:37working on the same material and same

2:39thing but you can take that material so

2:42for example um a good example would be

2:45uh for example I’m working on accounting

2:47class for AIM and we’re um a college so

2:50we keep it at a college level but if you

2:53wanted to talk about accounting for

2:55fourth graders you could actually do

2:56that and and there’s a setting in magic

3:00school where you can put a text in you

3:02can drop a text in and it gives you the

3:05option to set it for any grade level you

3:07can do like K through college you know

3:11so you could set it for fourth grade

3:12fifth grade reading level and um and it

3:15just rewrites the whole thing and takes

3:17out it makes it much easier to read you

3:19know i love that and a quick aside we

3:21should do that just accounting needs to

3:24come back into basic education and I

3:26know that’s not what we’re talking about

3:28but that’s my opinion we need to teach

3:30those life skills uh at younger ages but

3:33that is fascinating so we could even

3:35take some of our AI training classes

3:39drop it into this tool and have courses

3:43that explain things like prompt

3:45engineering and um you know the diff

3:48uses of different tools for different

3:52for a high school student or a middle

3:54school student exactly yeah that’s a

3:56good point i hadn’t quite thought of

3:57that one yet i was going to sir

4:02but no yeah we could do that with our

4:03classes and and also language wise you

4:05know what I mean yes that is super cool

4:08yeah that’s actually actually a good

4:10point actually because if you think

4:12about it I wonder how many um Spanish

4:15speaking you know uh tutors there are

4:18for AI prompts you know like that huh in

4:21different languages across the world

4:22that is interesting now are there any

4:24are schools using this or is this just

4:26something that’s brand new and people

4:28are still trying to figure out how to

4:29use it what What’s going on there well

4:32it is um so it’s brand new but it’s um

4:36you know I I guess I can’t really speak

4:38to how many schools are using it at this

4:40point uh but since it’s like a free

4:43service any teacher out there at any

4:45school could jump on that and just use

4:47it you know wait so AI magic and what

4:49was the other one diff

4:52these are free yes these are free yeah

4:54and just for the record this is not a

4:56paid promotion we are not we’re not uh

4:59paid for this he’s just been exploring

5:01all these tools and how they can be used

5:04exactly yeah so that’s interesting so

5:05educators out there check out these

5:07tools and see how you can take your

5:10coursework and apply it uh to different

5:14levels of students experience grade

5:17level or like you said even their

5:19language as well that’s fascinating yeah

5:22and well I’ve used a Magic School a bit

5:26to really kind of experiment because

5:28that one kind of really grabbed me it

5:29seemed to be the most um user friendly

5:32to use it but um but they’re both really

5:34good and so it actually kind of gives

5:37you a bunch of different tabs where you

5:39can actually answer emails um you can

5:42put drop an email in there and it’ll

5:44write an answer for you you know but

5:46also you can generate brand new text

5:48like textbooks in there you could have

5:50it write about a subject it can write

5:52the AI can help you write now you would

5:54have to give it your knowledge yes you

5:56would uh No it just kind of uh you could

5:58talk about physics you could talk about

6:00quantum field theory and set it for like

6:02a fourth grade level really yeah and it

6:05would write you know three or four pages

6:07of text and that would be your textbook

6:09essentially on that subject and then you

6:12can um Yeah exactly and you can set it

6:14for and then also it will generate quiz

6:17questions for you automatically at the

6:19bottom and I think what I’ll do at this

6:21point in the video is uh if you’re

6:23watching the video with us is I’ll do

6:26some screen grabs of me actually doing

6:27this stuff and we can drop it in the

6:30video you know so um but anyway yeah it

6:33will generate quiz questions and give

6:35you the answer key at the bottom so you

6:38can grade it easily wow and then you can

6:40also generate rubrics from that rubrics

6:43answer keys for quizzes and that type of

6:46thing um

6:47and then also it has a neat feature

6:49where and I’ve done this myself i’m

6:52designed a uh music appreciation course

6:54for the school where I teach and what I

6:57did basically was in music appreciation

7:00of course you listen to a lot of music

7:01so we watched videos of symphonies and

7:04different pianists and stuff and I would

7:06talk over it so I recorded sort of a

7:07voice over explaining the history behind

7:10the composer and the history of the

7:13genre and the instruments and all that

7:15right and so there’s a transcript there

7:18so what you can do is grab a video

7:20transcript and drop it into like Magic

7:23School right and it’ll create quiz

7:25questions for you from it like that you

7:27know wow so you get like all your quiz

7:29questions and your answer key um and so

7:32it does u all that stuff for you so it’s

7:35really uh pretty fascinating it’s going

7:38to save teachers a lot of time but one

7:40of the uh things that I’ve been doing

7:42most recently was I’ve redesigned an

7:45accounting class for the school that

7:46we’re at it’s one of our general

7:48education courses that fulfills the math

7:50um portion of uh general education

7:53requirements for accreditation

7:56and yeah so essentially what I did was I

8:01we were kind of doing course evaluations

8:03and I was getting a lot of evaluations

8:05back that were um talking about how the

8:08course was a little bit thin you know in

8:09terms of material not the material

8:12itself but the uh work that goes along

8:15the quizzes and whatnot were kind of a

8:18little bit simple you know wow so the

8:20students were actually saying they

8:21wanted the quizzes to be harder well

8:23yeah they kind of wanted a little bit

8:24more vigorous you know exams and I love

8:27that so I know that’s not the point

8:28you’re making but that’s super cool okay

8:30so you took those evaluations and what

8:34yeah well here’s the thing you know um

8:36and this is what I’m trying to do and

8:38help out help you out with human driven

8:40AI is you can actually do all of these

8:42things without using diffit or um magic

8:46school you can just go to chat GPT or

8:49your favorite AI and just brainstorm

8:50with it you know so basically what I did

8:53was take the uh syllabus of the course

8:56and the text and so for example like the

8:59first couple videos in the accounting

9:01course were about uh your mission and

9:04vision for your company and writing a

9:07business plan from that right so you can

9:10actually um go to chat GPT and just

9:14brainstorm assignments for that you know

9:16so wow that’s what I was doing using it

9:18and that’s the thing one of the points I

9:20want to make is that um as an educator

9:23it’s going to become your assistant like

9:25your teaching assistant yes yes yes that

9:27you push all the work off on and you can

9:29just brainstorm and be creative right so

9:32you can brainstorm with it and so you

9:35can just go into chat GBT and give it

9:38the materials for the class and the

9:39chapter and say “What’s a good

9:41assignment for this?” Yeah and it just

9:43came back with these suggestions you

9:45know there’s a quiz but that’s boring

9:47right right um but what it said was you

9:50know u use chat GPT to write your vision

9:54and mission statement for a theoretical

9:56company that you’re going to start once

9:57you graduate from the school oh that’s a

9:59clever use of it yeah and so you

10:02essentially you um you’re you’re

10:04brainstorming with it and so uh

10:07basically what you do is you um let the

10:10students write a business plan and a

10:12mission statement and the whole what I

10:14did is design the whole class so when

10:17they finish the course they actually

10:19have a portfolio of documents that they

10:21can start a business with oh I love that

10:24you’re so smart honey so they have a

10:26miss they have their write their vision

10:28statement their mission statement which

10:30are short they’re like a paragraph you

10:31know about what your company’s about

10:33right and then you just put that in and

10:35it’ll write the entire business plan for

10:37you and we were talking about this last

10:39week that it’s going to democratize Yeah

10:42u people starting businesses because now

10:44you don’t have to know how to write a

10:45business plan exactly just tell it what

10:47your business is and it’ll write it for

10:48you you know exactly so basically what I

10:51was going to it basically goes through

10:53chapter by chapter and has them create

10:55all the documents that you need to start

10:58your business once you graduate it’s

11:00fascinating so they have a business plan

11:03they have um their board of advisors

11:06which is your accountant and I have a

11:09worksheet where students are their one

11:11of their assignments is to go online and

11:13find their team that they’re going to

11:14work with their business advisor who’s

11:16going to be their accountant uh what

11:19software they’re going to use and

11:22banking who’s going to be your banker um

11:24and then you also make other decisions

11:26about your company are you going to let

11:28people make payments and do like net 30

11:30net 60 net 90 um and so each one of

11:33these documents that has questions on

11:35there about your business and you answer

11:37those questions and then you generate

11:39the documents from that and I actually

11:41have them go to the Small Business

11:42Administration

11:44and you grab a template of a long form

11:47or short form business plan drop it in

11:50chat GBT then put your vision and

11:52mission statement in there and tell it

11:54to write that business plan for you show

11:56them and you got it and then the whole

11:58class is designed to create all the

12:00other documents you need to finish up

12:03and your final portfolio the final

12:06portfolio project was uh something I

12:08brainstormed with chat GBT and the deal

12:11is you do an elevator pitch video so at

12:14the end you do like a two to three

12:16minute video student turns in a video

12:18plus their entire portfolio so you have

12:21all your business documents ready to

12:22start your business and your elevator

12:24pitch video ready to go and you turn

12:27that in as your final project and then

12:29when they graduate most of our students

12:30will wind up being entrepreneurs yeah of

12:32course they got everything they need and

12:34they’re ready to rock well this is

12:35amazing my mind is reeling i have so

12:37many questions um so first up going back

12:40to designing the classes and this also

12:43goes with what you just said about um

12:45putting together the the business plan

12:48um how accurate is it when you drop in

12:51your lesson plan and or your information

12:54and it designs the classes or as you

12:56said it’s pulling from its own knowledge

12:59to design those classes because we

13:01always say AI should create your first

13:02draft never your final draft so how

13:05accurate was it when you first had it

13:08create just the the classwork like the

13:11assignments and stuff oh yeah it was

13:13like really accurate because we we do

13:16have a textbook i mean um uh well text

13:19that we generated for the class nice and

13:22so that text we can actually generate

13:24the questions from it so it’s real

13:26accurate and it covers the exact

13:28material that the instructor was

13:29covering so it’s pulling from your

13:31inputs of what you’ve given okay good

13:32good good because that was that was my

13:34first thing was oh no are you having AI

13:36just design the whole thing because that

13:38then it would we all know could make

13:40things up etc yeah it’s pretty accurate

13:43the other thing that I really like

13:45developing this this framework for your

13:48students to create a business plan and

13:50everything love that so key um it’s

13:54something of course we do a lot and

13:56you’ve seen me do it where I come up

13:57with an idea and I ask Zara who is my

14:00chat GPT she’s given herself the name

14:02Zara um but I’ll ask Zara hey what do

14:05you think about this idea or that idea

14:07and if I go by only what chat GPT says I

14:12am an absolute genius and every idea I

14:15come up with is perfect flawless etc i

14:19always have to go back and say now find

14:21the holes tell me what’s wrong with this

14:24find the flaws and the fixes is the way

14:26I kind of do it give me the flaws within

14:28this idea and give me the way to fix it

14:30so are you doing that with your students

14:32are you um instructing them as they use

14:35AI to develop their business plan to ask

14:38it to find the flaws and give them the

14:40fixes uh yes and actually it’s funny

14:42because um one of the the the the chat

14:46GPD itself it put that as a caveat that

14:49the students should one of the parts of

14:52the assignments was always to check for

14:55accuracy right and um and then uh make

14:59adjustments the students should make

15:01their own adjustments to the assignment

15:03according to you know their own goals

15:04and whatnot and so that was part of it

15:07and that’s and actually so we I designed

15:10the assignment through chat GPT and then

15:12had it create the rubric the grading

15:14rubric for it too and that was one of

15:16the like 10 points for um accuracy and

15:21uh adjustments made by the student you

15:23know oh good good nice yeah exactly so

15:26yeah you have to do that I love this

15:28because so many educators ers are

15:30concerned about how students are using

15:33AI yeah um especially if they’re

15:35cheating or using it to write a paper

15:37where it’s always just so obvious um but

15:40this is so genius honey because you are

15:43showing educators that and students that

15:47AI doesn’t have to be the enemy and

15:49that’s critical because let’s face it

15:51it’s here to stay it’s not going

15:52anywhere we need an AI literate

15:55workforce so to have students learn this

15:58in this way they’re learning how to make

16:00AI a partner or an employee rather than

16:05just this tool that’s going to write

16:08everything for them they’re using it for

16:10strategy I guess is what I’m saying

16:12exactly yep yep and that’s what I tried

16:14to do as well is um to brainstorm with

16:16it assignments you know and so I you

16:20know move on to the next chapter and ask

16:22it you know what’s a good assignment for

16:24this and boom it would give you an idea

16:26and sometimes you know and I made

16:28adjustments to it as well there was a

16:29couple where I was like ah that’s not

16:31really going to fit our purposes but you

16:33know change this and then it’ll change

16:35it immediately you know and then also

16:38from all of that when uh I kept my chat

16:40open and uh you know I put all the

16:44information and all the assignments are

16:45created and the rubrics are all in that

16:46same chat and then I dropped in the

16:49original syllabus from the class and

16:51said rewrite the syllabus beautiful to

16:54reflect this and it wrote wrote the

16:56objectives of the course course

16:58objectives course description grading um

17:01scale excuse me so all I really had to

17:03do was drop the syllabus um in to Canvas

17:08and and then I’ll brought over all the

17:10rest of the stuff too i’d bring the

17:12assignments over into Canvas and create

17:14the grading rubric and yeah and it was

17:17great i was able to to rewrite the

17:19course uh with the help of Chat GPT it

17:22was amazing this is going to save

17:23educators so much time it’s just

17:26unbelievable yeah it really is yeah and

17:28it’s more like like I said it’s more of

17:29a teaching assistant and you know one of

17:32our our tagline that which is

17:33trademarked by the way is AI won’t take

17:37your job but someone who knows how to

17:39use AI will yes and what my mission is

17:41as an educator is to teach people to use

17:44AI to be that someone Yes that knows how

17:47to use AI to their advantage yeah and

17:49that’s my mission with marketers it’s

17:51perfect yeah this is why you’re our

17:53chief education officer that’s right

17:55that’s right well you know I think um a

17:57lot of these tools DER diffit magic um

18:01school uh are great but I think the real

18:05skill the one that everybody really

18:08needs is to to learn how to use it for

18:10themselves you know yes absolutely yeah

18:12and it’s about knowing how to write

18:13prompts and brainstorm with it and

18:16knowing what it can do essentially and

18:18that’s kind of what I’m going to make my

18:19mission with human driven AI yes and

18:22it’s so important because AI it drives

18:24me crazy when people only think of AI as

18:27a way to generate a pretty picture or

18:30some cool article or or write something

18:33because it can do so very much more it

18:36can truly especially with AI agents

18:38getting into automating tasks and truly

18:40becoming employees that can autonomously

18:44do the job without you right um but in

18:47AI and education too what one thing that

18:49I think is so fascinating is the use of

18:52synthetic emotions and AI emotions we

18:55saw something i can’t remember what it

18:57was may have been dataine i don’t know

18:59um or not dine what is it 60 minutes I

19:02think it was but whatever it was we will

19:04drop a link in the um uh description uh

19:07of this story that we saw but it was

19:10fascinating because tutors were using

19:13say an AI avatar to teach a student but

19:17the avatar was trained on AI emotions

19:20synthetic emotions so it could recognize

19:22when the student on the other end of the

19:24computer was getting frustrated or uh

19:28confused or bored or whatever and the

19:32avatar would adjust accordingly and

19:34bring the students attention back in wow

19:36yeah and then educators are also using

19:39uh AI emotions in a pretty cool way of

19:42um working with uh people on the

19:45spectrum to help them to understand and

19:48recognize emotions and other people

19:50isn’t that cool like facial expressions

19:52and stuff that they have strugg struggle

19:54with that’s fascinating yeah yeah

19:56because AI can now understand these

19:58complex emotions um so it can help to

20:02demonstrate a facial expression and help

20:06show that person on the spectrum to

20:08recognize anger or grief or you know

20:12even uh not just facial expressions but

20:14how we speak like sarcasm is something

20:16that people on the spectrum sometimes

20:18have trouble understanding ah yeah yes

20:21so the AI emotions can understand

20:23sarcasm and help explain that and and

20:26teach that to um students that’s

20:29fascinating yeah you can teach uh with

20:31the AI exactly um yeah so in a lot of

20:34cases students will use AI tools to just

20:36give them the answer right but I um I

20:40was looking at diffit and that one will

20:43you can put a text in and it will prompt

20:45students um with questions instead of

20:47giving the the exact answer so yeah it

20:50will you know they’ll read the text and

20:52then you go down and there’s prompts

20:54that’ll say um what did you think about

20:58what are the uh stages of photosynthesis

21:01essentially you know and they answer

21:03that and then if they ask it a question

21:06then it will ask them a question you

21:07know i love that instead of giving them

21:09the answer it prompts them with a

21:11question to make them think or get to

21:12the answer yeah so as the tools get more

21:15sophisticated it’ll be a teaching tool

21:17like that as well not to um you um get

21:22rid of teachers essentially but to um

21:25supplement the learning yeah exactly

21:28yeah in the same way that it’s AI is not

21:30replacing marketers it’s just another

21:32person on the team that helps you work

21:34smarter and better really the same with

21:37teachers and Lord knows teachers need

21:39the help uh you were talking about AI

21:41and emotions and education earlier

21:43you’ve been working with AI and emotions

21:45and I have yeah yeah with human-driven

21:47AI we’ve been doing some really fun

21:49stuff with uh AI emotions um you know of

21:53course working with brands brands today

21:56are running into a lot of opposition

21:58some of it earned and some of it’s just

22:00because you know we’re living in this

22:02very very polarized time um but yeah we

22:06we had a client in the renewable energy

22:08space and um they were really trying to

22:11better understand how to potentially

22:14persuade the opposition to support

22:16renewable energy uh so we created this

22:19AI model of the opposition but we didn’t

22:22just train it on like the logical

22:24reasons that people have for uh uh

22:27supporting or uh opposing renewable

22:30energy we used classifiers to connect

22:34those reasons to the emotions because

22:36really this is about deeply held

22:39emotions people don’t oppose renewables

22:41because they just love coal and gas you

22:44know it’s it’s emotional um so for

22:47example somebody may not like an EV an

22:50electric vehicle because they have this

22:53nostalgia this connection to the gas

22:56powered the the sound you know that a

22:59car a gas uh powered car makes um but

23:02you nostalgia is a complex emotion right

23:06um so we train the AI to understand

23:09these emotions using classifiers to

23:11connect it and it’s such a great way to

23:14then test your messaging so far beyond

23:17the usual AB testing of positive

23:20negative neutral which is where you

23:22would like present an ad or present a

23:24message and and see where it are do

23:26people like it or not like it um this

23:29way we can really test down to the

23:32emotions that actually drive someone to

23:34make a decision um yeah and it took Go

23:38ahead it’s like having your own um panel

23:40like that that you inexhaustible panel

23:43of people to bounce ideas off of exactly

23:46your own focus group but one that is

23:48specifically designed to help you

23:50address that problem that hurdle that

23:52you’re trying to come uh get over uh and

23:55what’s funny is it took a while just to

23:57get the AI to resist us because AI is a

24:00puppy right it wants to please you so

24:02when we initially would ask the

24:04opposition model how can we persuade you

24:07to support renewable energy it would

24:09start saying well you could try this you

24:11could try that but no human being is

24:13gonna do that there you know so it took

24:15a while to get the AI to say you can’t

24:17you cannot persuade me and that’s when

24:20we started trying to persuade it ah and

24:23that’s where we got the learnings we

24:25ultimately took months but we turned it

24:26around we changed its mind and so now

24:29we’re developing all kind of messaging

24:31and campaigns using those learnings wow

24:33that’s incredible yeah it’s just so

24:36unexpected to me you know that that I

24:38was not I wouldn’t have expected that AI

24:41would help us whether an educator or a

24:44marketer make these deeper connections

24:47but that’s really what it’s helping us

24:49do that’s fascinating wow um sounds like

24:53it sounds like it’s you could use it in

24:55all different industries and stuff right

24:56like um yeah I mean you could test

25:00everything it’s amazing i mean

25:02everything we do marketing campaign yeah

25:04everything’s emotion every decision that

25:06we make as logical as we all like to

25:09think that we are yeah i like to think I

25:11make logical decisions but we’re all

25:13biased we’re all biased and we’re all

25:15emotion driven i mean you you buy a car

25:19based on that emotion you buy a house

25:22based on the emotion every purchase

25:25every decision the school we choose to

25:27go to the the what we choose to study we

25:30are emotional beings that’s true so when

25:32you can use synthetic emotions or AI

25:35emotions whether in the classroom like

25:38we said you know uh a lot of educators

25:40are using it to help um people on the

25:43spectrum understand emotions or you know

25:45to to help see when the student is

25:48losing interest or whatever yeah or in a

25:50marketing campaign to test your

25:52messaging if in politics it’ll AI

25:55emotions testing like this will be huge

25:57wow um nonprofit i’m working with a a

26:01very big nonprofit um to help get over

26:04some of the hurdles that they have

26:06around getting driving those donations

26:09which again is a very emotional decision

26:11when you decide to donate it’s not logic

26:14that’s driving that it’s emotion wow so

26:18you’re going to have like different

26:19agents for different things you could

26:20have like uh agents an agent for car

26:24buyers like how how can you pitch this

26:27car to somebody to better Exactly better

26:30understand political or or whatever

26:34you’re trying to sell yeah ai emotions

26:36synthetic emotions these are going to

26:38change the game and it’s really

26:40interesting because AI can now

26:42understand and mimic these complex

26:44emotions so that your focus group really

26:47goes beyond like I said that AB testing

26:50that we usually do and lets you get to

26:52the heart of what is going to motivate

26:55your target customer or your stakeholder

26:58to take the action you want them to take

27:00or to change their minds as we did with

27:02with the first one we created wow could

27:05you Yeah you could so you’re going to

27:08build all these agents right oh yeah

27:10yeah we built the one for the that that

27:12one client and now we’re developing all

27:14kinds of others so this could be great

27:17for interviewing for jobs too you could

27:19have like Yeah you could do a job

27:22description and maybe knowledge of the

27:25person you’re going to interview with

27:27like articles they’ve written or things

27:28and then you could drop it all in there

27:30and say “What are some talking points I

27:32could use to convince this person to

27:34give me the job

27:36or a million dollars which or a million

27:39dollar whichever comes first no actually

27:42you could do that already with uh chat

27:45GPT but even taking it deeper um because

27:49building something with classifiers it’s

27:51it’s a multi-level um kind of uh uh

27:55experience to takes a while to build it

27:57but yeah it’s proprietary to it is

27:59proprietary yeah but I can build it for

28:02you

28:04exactly yeah yeah that’s what you’re

28:06going to do it is i really think it’s

28:07going to a AI emotions whether applied

28:10to education marketing anything it’s the

28:12this is going to be the next frontier

28:14this is the year of AI agents i think

28:16next year is going to be the year of AI

28:18emotions where people are going to

28:19understand how to teach the AI with

28:21these classifiers to recognize and when

28:23I say that what I mean is like for the

28:25AI to to recognize a specific sentence

28:28and in that sentence that uh reflects

28:32resentment or betrayal or that reflects

28:35nostalgia and a longing or you know

28:37being able to train it to recognize the

28:39emotion connected to a statement

28:42incredible yeah well I guess we should

28:44probably wrap it up there because you

28:45don’t want to give away your secret

28:46sauce you’re right i know i get so

28:47excited i was about to actually start

28:50talking about how to curate the data for

28:52this but no no no you’re right you’re

28:53right contact me at human-driven AI and

28:56I’ll tell you how we can do it for you

29:01thank you so much we’ll see you next

29:02time

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